One Woman's Observations of Camp Casey
In this blog, Lietta Ruger, member of Military Families Speak Out http://coastalrain.tripod.com/wmfso/, shares her unique perspective as a former military brat and military wife and, now, the mother-in-law to one soldier and the Aunt of another soldier. Her son-in-law and nephew served extended 15-month deployments in Iraq, March 2003 thru July 2004. Both are under potential stop loss for second deployments to Iraq.
She acknowledges the cruel deceptions fostered on the American public to put our young in military into combat for speculative reasons as the reason for her trip to Camp Casey. She talks of her own authentic experience of Camp Casey.
Posted by Lietta on August 28, 2005 at 07:08 PM | Permalink
Welcome, Lietta! Thanks for joining us in this venue tonight. For the sake of those that may not be here via our email today, I'll post more about Lietta in a moment.
Posted by: charlene | Aug 28, 2005 7:10:14 PM
Could you tell us about the week you spent at Camp Casey?
Posted by: Jessica | Aug 28, 2005 7:11:38 PM
Here's what we sent out to members today:
This evening, our guest will be Lietta Ruger. Lietta is a member of Military Families Speak Out http://coastalrain.tripod.com/wmfso/. She spent a week at Camp Casey supporting Cindy Sheehan’s quest to ask Bush “How many more soldiers have to die before we say enough?”
During her guest blog, Lietta will share her unique perspective as a former military brat and military wife and, now, the mother-in-law to one soldier and the Aunt of another soldier. Her son-in-law and nephew served extended 15-month deployments in Iraq, March 2003 thru July 2004. Both are under potential stop loss for second deployments to Iraq. She will answer questions from 7 - 8 PM EDT.
Posted by: charlene | Aug 28, 2005 7:14:37 PM
Lietta is having difficulties but she'll have it down in a moment. Hang in there folks!
Posted by: Charlene | Aug 28, 2005 7:15:22 PM
Hi folks, I'm here now, puter running a bit slow. I'm pleased for the invite and am pleased to share my experience of the first week of Camp Casey sleeping in a tent in a ditch.
Posted by: Lietta | Aug 28, 2005 7:17:01 PM
I arrived at Camp Casey Aug 10, and stayed thru Aug 15. Cindy Sheehan began her vigil at Camp Casey on weekend, Aug 6 and I was anxious to get there as soon as I could.
I was there in the first week of Camp Casey as it was unfolding. It was not yet near the thousands it has become today.
Posted by: Lietta | Aug 28, 2005 7:19:51 PM
Before we get into the Camp Casey experience, Lietta would you please share your view of why you went to Camp Casey.
I know it and agree with it wholeheartedly but there will be others out there listening that don't know why.
Posted by: Charlene | Aug 28, 2005 7:20:22 PM
I arrived when Crawford Peace House was still a bit sleepy and by the end of the day people had started coming from different cities across the states. It was the beginning of a pilgrimage that went on the week I was there and continued after I left.
The media had not yet picked up the story of Cindy and Camp Casey, so the folks coming had learned of it on internet and radio. They were coming because they felt compelled.
Posted by: Lietta | Aug 28, 2005 7:23:23 PM
I'd like to visit after I hear the story.
Posted by: Phil | Aug 28, 2005 7:26:05 PM
Sure Charlene. I felt driven to get down to Crawford and stand in support of Cindy Sheehan. We have 2 in our family, my son-in-law and nephew, both deployed to Iraq in extended tours (15 months) and are under potential stop loss orders for second deployments to Iraq.
I am member of Military Families Speak Out (MFSO www.mfso.org) and have been for almost 2 years. I have been speaking out about the President's decision to initiate war in Iraq for as long.
Posted by: Lietta | Aug 28, 2005 7:26:32 PM
Great to hear that you were camped out at the Bush place in Texas. Hope he was annoyed that you all were there.
Posted by: Democratic Nascar Fan | Aug 28, 2005 7:26:39 PM
Thanks Democratic Nascar Fan, it was an unforgettable experience. It is clear by now that Camp Casey, Cindy and all of us there in support of Cindy were an irritant to the President's vacation.
Posted by: Lietta | Aug 28, 2005 7:29:20 PM
It's interesting that a short visit by the President to perhaps offer consolance to a grieving mother, would have been interpreted more as the mark of a leader, less the mark of capitulation. What has evolved now this past month has been the remarkable outpouring of American citizens of all stripes coming forth to share in and carry the message 'what is the noble cause'
Posted by: Lietta | Aug 28, 2005 7:31:55 PM
Lietta, When you speak to the press about your reason for being against the war, what is it that you say?
Posted by: Charlene | Aug 28, 2005 7:33:05 PM
I dedicated about five years of my life to trying to stop the war in Vietnam and ended up running a shelter for homeless vets after the war.
I say this to thank you for your dedication and to let younger people know this struggle won't be over in Sept. when we have the big rally.
I will bring a group to the bus tour in Madison Sept 4th.
Posted by: Phil | Aug 28, 2005 7:34:34 PM
My own reasons for feeling the need to go were defined by the cruel deceptions fostered on the American public to put our young in military into combat for speculative reasons. I grew up a military brat (peacetime in the 50's and 60's). I was young wife to high school sweetheart who was drafted and sent to Vietnam. We had our first child while he was deployed in Nam.
Posted by: Lietta | Aug 28, 2005 7:34:36 PM
Wasn't he on a 5 week vacation? How do you run the country when you are taking five weeks off of work? I know he has aides there to let him know about things but he's chillin in Texas while he sends more and more into harms way? I'm a member of the military and have been for nearly 14 years now. I do not support what Bush has done.
Posted by: Democratic Nascar Fan | Aug 28, 2005 7:35:14 PM
This is off topic, but I just want to say that our thoughts are with our members in the path of Huricaine Katrina and we hope they all stay safe.
Posted by: Jessica | Aug 28, 2005 7:36:37 PM
Phil, you would have first hand experience then seeing the Viet-era vets come home and how true it is that for many, they never come completely home. Few come home intact.
Posted by: Lietta | Aug 28, 2005 7:37:01 PM
It was the lies then and it is the lies now that are most troublesome.
Posted by: Phil | Aug 28, 2005 7:38:45 PM
Do you think Camp Casey has made a difference in the view people have of the war accross the country?
Posted by: Jessica | Aug 28, 2005 7:38:51 PM
Charlene, when I talk to media and attempt to explain why I am against 'this war', this war in Iraq, I explain a bit about my background connected to being a military family. The reason this is important is there has traditionally been a culture of what I call the code of silence. Troops and their families are expected not to speak publicly in what could be construed as critical of the Commander-in-Chief.
Posted by: Lietta | Aug 28, 2005 7:39:44 PM
I have spoken with countless Soldiers that come home. All have seen too much that will stay with them forever. I have personally lost four pilots that I will never get to see again. Most of us in the military do not think that we belong over there. They will continue to kill Soldiers every day until we pull out. If we pull out in one year or 20, they will act as they always have. How many more Soldiers have to die before we pull out?
Posted by: Democratic Nascar Fan | Aug 28, 2005 7:41:49 PM
Thank you for your dedicated service to this country, Democratic NASCAR fan; I'm so sorry that our current administration undervalues the faith you showed in our country by volunteering for duty. Thank you to Phil for a vital and different kind of service to our country.
Thank you to Lietta for putting up with a damp tent and an allergy to fire ants and everything else you have put up with for the work you are doing to bring open the eyes of the American people. Goodness knows it's time for America to start getting ticked off at our administration.
Posted by: Charlene | Aug 28, 2005 7:43:11 PM
You are right about being critical of the Commander-in-Chief. We are not allowed to speak publically about how we feel as we are worried about what will happen to us.
Posted by: Democratic Nascar Fan | Aug 28, 2005 7:43:34 PM
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