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Alternatives to the Wal-Mart Economy

Tonight's guest blog is a collaborative effort with the Backbone Campaign.  This collaboration is part of their Conversations with the Cabinet, a virtual Progressive Parallel Administration. 

Tonight's Backbone Campaign webcast conference call and podcast guest is John Cavanagh.  As nominee for Secretary of Commerce on the Backbone Cabinet, John will speak about Alternatives to the Wal-Mart Economy. John has been Director of the Institute for Policy Studies since 1998 and has worked as an international economist for the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (1978-1981), the World Health Organization (1981-1982). His most recent book is the second edition of A Field Guide to the Global Economy.

If you have a question that you’d like to ask John Cavanagh, you can use our comment feature on the MViMV Blog to post your question between 7-8:30pm EDT.

You can listen to the call at Voice of Vashon join the phone call at 8:30 PM EDT. To enter call, dial 1-641-297-5500, follow prompts and enter access code 7764-7377 followed by #. Please RSVP if you'll be joining the conversation.

The Backbone Campaign archives Conversations with the Cabinet; so, if you missed the original call, you can listen via audio streaming from their site.

Posted by Charlene Johnston on August 29, 2005 at 05:51 PM | Permalink | Comments (21)

One Woman's Observations of Camp Casey

In this blog, Lietta Ruger, member of Military Families Speak Out http://coastalrain.tripod.com/wmfso/, shares her unique perspective as a former military brat and military wife and, now, the mother-in-law to one soldier and the Aunt of another soldier. Her son-in-law and nephew served extended 15-month deployments in Iraq, March 2003 thru July 2004. Both are under potential stop loss for second deployments to Iraq.

She acknowledges the cruel deceptions fostered on the American public to put our young in military into combat for speculative reasons as the reason for her trip to Camp Casey.  She talks of her own authentic experience of Camp Casey.

Posted by Lietta on August 28, 2005 at 07:08 PM | Permalink | Comments (69)

Why Must There Be A Contract with Black America?

One reason is that the (white) progressive agenda is too narrow. It's pretty clear from general voting patterns that white people on the right will numerically defeat white people on the left, if people of color are not involved.  

The nation is too much at risk to wait for a critical mass of white progressives to accept this reality, in order to build the multi-racial coalition that is needed.  Therefore, it is up to people of color to spell out in concrete terms what we want, so that the Democratic Party and other white-led progressive advocacy groups can follow.

The ideals and common sense of African-Americans here come into play. Today, 85-90% of African-Americans support the Democratic Party. Despite our ideological differences within, we have maintained this consensus for 10+ years. We have achieved this consensus without a network of town meetings.  Without the Internet. With limited political programming and publishing devoted to our interests. What do we understand that others can learn?  How do the priorities of Black America reflect where this nation should be headed?

Posted by Quintus Jett on August 22, 2005 at 08:08 PM | Permalink | Comments (74)

Seguimiento: ¿Tan solo una oportunidad para charlar o habrá mas?

Este fin de semana participe en el “Hispanic Summit”(la Convención Hispana) del Partido Demócrata Nacional. Fue una conferencia como muchas otras a las cuales he asistido- Gente distinguida, destacada compartiendo su visión de nuestra nación. Y la verdad me la pase muy bien- Buenas reuniones, gente super buena onda y simpática, un hotel muy bonito en una linda ciudad y conversaciones que verdaderamente si me inspiraron.

Pero me fui de la convención preguntándome si este fin de semana fue tan solo una oportunidad para charlar o si habrá mas...

El haber tenido la oportunidad de conocer a muchos lideres Hispanos fue increíble. Y por cierto yo tengo toda la intención de mantenerme en contacto con ellos y de invitarlos a que participen en todo lo que nosotros en "Latinos para América" estamos haciendo. (De hecho ya invite a todos los que me dieron su cartita que vinieran a formar parte de esta discusión hoy día. Y estoy haciendo chongitos para que puedan participar.)

Pero dejando lo individual aparte me pregunto si habrá seguimiento del lado del Partido Demócrata...

Bien, siendo justa, parte de la discusión fue el preguntarnos a nosotros los participes cuales creemos que deben de ser los pasos que toma el partido para mejor representar a la comunidad Hispana.

Por supuesto yo compartí mi opinión:

Lo primero es lo primero-

Y primero hay que tener una estrategia y un plan, con objetivos claramente definidos.

Y de allí hay que tener un equipo que se dedique a la implementación de ese plan- gente, apoyo del liderazgo y dinero- porque si no de nada vale el plan.

(Créanme, lo digo por experiencia.)

Y en paralelo se necesita dar la oportunidad para que la gente de la comunidad Latina/ Hispana que quiera ser parte de la solución aunque tal vez no sea parte del partido o los que ya pertenecen al grupo de los “meros-meros”, también puedan participar y contribuir.

Si no, no mas llegamos para charlar y mejor conocernos entre nosotros este fin de semana. O sea no tengo ningún problema con eso pero la verdad creo que la oportunidad que existe es mucho mayor...

Si les digo la verdad esa es mi frustración con el partido Demócrata en general.

Como Latina yo aun no he visto un plan concreto que diga:

"Mira estos son nuestros objetivos para mejor representar a la comunidad Latina y aquí esta como tu puedes ayudar."

En lo ideal:

-        este plan existiría

-        habrían los recursos en términos de personal y financieros para ayudar a implementarlo

-        habría apoyo a escala ejecutiva

-        y habría la comunicación con nosotros los Latinos sobre como va el plan, así mas o menos como un reporte mensual.

Bueno, eso seria lo ideal.

Y nos dijeron los lideres de la convención que van a trabajar para crear tal plan.

Dios quiera que si haya seguimiento en esto. Porque el Partido Demócrata tiene mucho que hacer para ganar la confianza y el voto de muchos Latinos. De nuevo insisto que el voto del Latino no esta garantizado a nadie.

A mí me cae muy bien el gobernador Dean y quede muy impresionada que le dedico tanto de su tiempo a compartir con nosotros en esta convención. ¡Fue tremendo, la verdad! ¡Y me fascina que haya decidido tener Latinos en posiciones de liderazgo- eso es critico! Bien hecho.

Pero la verdad, no es suficiente.

No porque hay Latinos en posiciones de liderazgo se va ver una estrategia para la comunidad bien implementada si no hay personas específicamente encomendadas para hacer este trabajo, el dinero para que lo puedan hacer y el apoyo al nivel ejecutivo de la organización.

Yo creo que las dos cosas son necesarias- es necesario tener a Hispanos en posiciones generales- porque solo así es que el partido Demócrata va reflejar la verdadera cara de nuestra nación. Pero además de eso es necesario que los Demócratas tengan una estrategia especifica con objetivos que se puedan medir. Si no la verdad no van a llegar a tener el impacto que quieren con la comunidad.

Bueno, eso es tan solo mi opinión. ¿Uds. que opinan?

English version:

This weekend I participated in the DNC's Hispanic Summit. It was a conference like many others I've previously attended-- distinguished and accomplished people, sharing their vision of what is happening in our nation. Good meetings, great people, a nice hotel in a beautiful city and conversations that truly inspired me.

But I found myself leaving the summit, asking myself, "Is this it?"... Was this weekend only an opportunity to catch up with old friends and hear the inspiring words of great leaders or will we see concrete actions follow? Will there be any follow up with us, the Latino community, by the Democratic Party?

In all fairness, part of the Summit was spent asking us, the participants, what we think the DNC should do to better represent the Hispanic Community.

I, of course, shared my opinion, which I will also share here.

As a Latina, I have yet to see a concrete plan that says:

"Look, these are our goals to better represent the Hispanic community and here's how you can help."

In my opinion, in the ideal world:

- This plan would exist.

- There would be resources allocated to support this plan: both human resources and financial resources to help to make it happen.

- There would be direct support for this plan among the leaders of the DNC.

- And there would be frequent, purposeful communication with our community as it relates to the Party's progress against this plan, some kind of monthly report, if you will, with a feedback loop.

The leaders at this Summit did tell us that they'll be taking our feedback back to the DNC and will be working on developing such a plan.

I pray that we see quick follow up on this action because the Democrats have a ways to go to win the trust and vote of many Latinos, and clearly the Latino community's vote is not guaranteed to any person or party.

I like Governor Dean and was very impressed that he chose to spend as much time as he did with us during the Summit. It was a great statement of his commitment to our community. And I am thrilled that he has decided to employ Latinos in key positions at the DNC. That is critical and truly great to see. The DNC needs to reflect the true face of our nation.

But, that is not enough.

Having Hispanics in key positions does not guarantee that there will be a specific strategy to reach out to the Latino community with measurable goals, nor that it will be implemented, nor that there will be the resources to make such a proposal happen. Having these leaders in these positions means that they need to focus on their specific jobs.

This strategic plan will only be meaningful if there is a clear mandate for it to happen from the top and if this mandate is supported by an investment in both the people and the budget necessary to execute the plan.

If this doesn't happen, Democrats are never going to have the kind of impact that they want in our community. In order to see the pay off, the DNC needs to make the investment. And until they do, other Latinos like me will remain frustrated with the party in general.

So, I hope that based on our feedback, someone in the DNC will reach out to the community and create a strategy and a plan, with clearly defined goals.

I hope that they will allocate the resources so that that plan succeeds: people, money and the support of all DNC leaders, because if that doesn't happen then it doesn't really matter that you have a plan.

Finally, I hope that the DNC makes sure that Hispanics/Latinos who want to be a part of the solution and contribute to these efforts have an opportunity to do so, even if they are not a part of the party or do not belong to the insider's group- I hope that there will be a place where the grassroots can contribute.

And if this doesn't happen, then I guess we just got together this weekend to connect and I'm not saying that I have problem with that, or that I don't see that there is a need for that to happen, but I do think that the opportunity that we have here is much greater than that and that then this will be another missed opportunity for the DNC.

Well, those are just my thoughts. What do you think?

Posted by Kety Esquivel on August 8, 2005 at 07:57 PM | Permalink | Comments (19)

One American Family's Immigration Debate

This blog post requires an introduction.

This is a personal story in the making that I thought could be important to share with the MViMV electronic community as we work to resolve (or simply figure out) some of the more salient issues of the immigration debate. This blog is framed by a letter I received from my dad after I visited him in Texas for a couple of days this summer. I plan to see him again in a week or two, and I expect he will have digested the whole of this posting and commentary. As any writer, I have here the advantage of authorship. In all fairness to my dad’s side of the argument, I will post his reply (sure to come) as a thread to this discussion, and will encourage him to go on-line to participate directly.


My dad lives in Texas. He is against illegal immigration and opposed to giving social benefits to immigrants who don’t work, save for emergency care and a few shared services, such as police and access to basic utilities. He is from Columbus, Ohio. His father was a farmer, growing up on a farm just east of Columbus; and HIS father emigrated from Germany. As far as I know, they have all been Republicans. My dad’s mother was religious (Pentacostal), but my dad has not been particularly so. He described himself to me more than once as an agnostic.

My dad and I go way back. Despite my moving to California after grad school and distance separating us for the better part of 20 years, we’ve never lost touch. We’ve shared discussions regarding all the important topics and never shy away from politics.

I was the first in my family to register as a Democrat. When I turned 18 and registered to vote, I remember my grandfather not speaking to me for nearly two years. My Dad shared with my Mother, originally from Nicaragua, now deceased, a strong Republican ethic. They both respected the independence of my thinking and encouraged it.

The time I spent at my dad and stepmom’s home last month was pleasant and heartwarming – until we touched on the subject of immigration. Then all heck broke loose! Sitting in a restaurant for Sunday lunch, my Dad’s face turned a bright red as he launched on a thorough attack on “liberal immigrationism” as he had apparently labeled my position. What follows is a letter I received about a week later, to which I have been meaning to reply, and have decided to do so here in an effort to stir our own debate about the issues raised. Immigration has always been important in America, and we owe it to ourselves to consider as many points of view as possible in order to better understand the issue and set a public policy that respects the thoughts and sensibilities of a majority of Americans.

Here is my dad’s letter, in ALL CAPS, because that’s how he wrote it—a throwback to his days in the U.S. Army, I think, as opposed to “shouting” in the parlance of today’s electronic communications ethic. I look forward to everyone’s thoughts and comments, and thank you for indulging me in sharing this very personal debate.

IMMIGRATION AND OTHER CONCERNS:

WHEN UNEDUCATED AND/OR PERSONS WITH MEDICAL PROBLEMS COME LEGALLY OR ILLEGALLY INTO THE U.S., THIS REQUIRES A HIGH DEGREE OF MEDICAL AND EDUCATIONAL EXPENDITURES – AND ADDS TO OUR ENDEMIC PROBLEMS FOR OUR OWN CITIZENS. HENCE, OUR INCREASED TAX BASE.

Dear Dad,

You couldn’t be more right, the costs of healthcare in America are unconscionable. While the reasons for these onerous costs are outside the scope of the immigration issue, it is important to keep in mind that the immigrant’s use of these services is a small fraction of the total cost to taxpayers. A combination of factors and demands on both the medical and educational realms have indeed increased the demands for these services and have required recurring tax increases. I expect this will continue.


I WOULD FAR RATHER PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY THROUGH FOREIGN AID, WHICH IN THE LONG RUN WOULD BE MUCH CHEAPER.


Foreign Aid is certainly a viable consideration, long term; however, the issue at hand is really how to work with the existing reality on the ground now. Demands on the health care system, such as from the tuberculosis (TB) epidemic sweeping the Mexican American community in LosAngeles that was covered in one of the clippings you included in your letter, are considerable. The cost of not addressing TB are even greater, because unchecked, the disease will only spread to children in schools, to elderly on public transit, in the supermarket, etc. We have a duty to take care of this important health care issue now, regardless of which ethnic group the need is concentrated in. We can discuss prevention, including limiting immigration, but the critical need is now. Your point that Mexicans are thus taking more out of the social welfare system jives with studies produced by the Government Accountability Office (GAO), economists at the Social Security Administration and the Urban Institute, which confirm that Hispanics, in general, receive a higher average rate of return on their Social Security contributions than the rest of the population. The reasons are many: on average, Hispanics have lower lifetime earnings, a higher incidence of disability, more children per family, and, by official measures, longer life expectancies than the population as a whole. Due to Social Security’s progressive benefit formula; its benefits for people with disabilities and for children of retired, disabled, or deceased workers; and its inflation-adjusted benefit that lasts as long as a retired or disabled beneficiary is alive, each of these population characteristics increases the Social Security benefits that Hispanic participants receive, relative to the amount of taxes they pay [June 28, 2005, study by Center for Budget and Policy Priorities]. I am not sure that we could simply eliminate all “welfare” type services domestically, even if we increased foreign aid by a hundred-fold.

Educationally, immigrants make up one in nine U.S. residents, one in seven US workers, and one in five low-wage workers. Immigrants are overrepresented among both low-wage and less educated U.S. workers. Since so many immigrants work and so many hold low-wage jobs, they could potentially benefit from post- as well as pre-employment services. Unfortunately, most publicly funded training programs assume that participants have 9th grade levels of literacy, and basic math and English skills. Without a coherent education policy for immigrants based on a complex range of their experiences, federal and state governments imperil the economic and social progress of millions of children. Current policies affecting immigrants are directed almost exclusively toward the narrow goal of teaching them English.


GRANTED THAT THE MAJORITY OF IMMIGRANTS PROVIDE WORKERS TO THE LOWER INCOME SCALE OPERATIONS, THE CURRENT LOWER INCOME CITIZEN POPULATION SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO GET OFF OF WELFARE AND PROVIDE THOSE LOWER INCOME SERVICES WHILE THEY OBTAIN SOME EDUCATION AND WORK SKILLS. SINCE THEY DO NOT PREFER TO WORK, SINCE SOCIAL SECURITY AND OTHER BENEFITS PAY THEM TO JUST SIT AROUND, IT IS TIME TO CUT BACK THOSE UNNECESSARY SERVICES. IF YOU CAN WORK – WORK – IF YOU CANNOT THEN WE HELP OUT WITH BENEFITS.


Here’s where I have a different experience. Although immigrants dominate a few low-wage occupations—farming and private household workers—immigrants in these occupations represent a small share of all low-wage foreign-born workers. My sense of the New Immigrant is that s/he is extremely hard working. Whether they be Russians or Guatemalans, they are striving toward the ageless American Dream and take on, by necessity for the most part, two and three jobs at a time. They are driven to achieve and perform in this society, frequently, with the added demand of sending money back home on a regular basis. I do not see much difference between the waves of Dutch, Italian or Polish immigrants who streamed through New York at the turn of and early in the 20th century and those who are doing so today.

The major difference that I see is that the New Immigrants (generally from Latin America, both legal and illegal) are bolstering Social Security with billions of dollars. As reported by Eduardo Porter in a New York Times front-page article, on April 5, 2005, “As the debate over Social Security heats up, the estimated seven million or so illegal immigrant workers in the United States are now providing the system with a subsidy of as much as $7 billion a year. While it has been evident for years that illegal immigrants pay a variety of taxes, the extent of their contributions to Social Security is striking: the money added up to about 10 percent of last year's surplus—the difference between what the system currently receives in payroll taxes and what it doles out in pension benefits. Moreover, the money paid by illegal workers and their employers is factored into all the Social Security Administration's projections.”

Furthermore, according to the Urban Institute, recent employment gains by immigrants did not lead to declines among native-born Americans. Over the long term, immigration has modest negative effects on less-educated workers but other positive effects on the economy—and the plus side will grow much stronger after baby boomers retire.


NEITHER I NOR MY FAMILY HAVE EVER DRAWN WELFARE—WE ALWAYS FOUND WORK AT SOME DEGREE. YOU WORKED FOR MOST OF YOUR EDUCATION EXPENSES OUTSIDE OF TUITION, WHICH YOUR MOTHER AND I ALWAYS FOUND A WAY TO PAY. WHY SHOULD OTHERS, INCLUDING OUR CURRENT CITIZENS, GET A FREE RIDE OR BE SUBSIDIZED BY THOSE THAT DO MAKE THE EFFORT TO HELP THEMSELVES AND PAY TAXES ACCORDINGLY? WE DO NOT EVEN REQUIRE THAT THE IMMIGRANTS LEARN THE LANGUAGE AND MANY MILLIONS OF IMMIGRANTS REMAIN IN THE U.S. WITHOUT PROPER CREDENTIALS.


I heartily agree and share your work ethic, but from a Latino/Hispanic perspective, while it is impossible to know exactly how many illegal immigrant workers pay taxes, all of them do to some degree (sales taxes being the most obvious, but many own vehicles and other real property, etc.). The same NYT article noted that according to specialists, most of them do. “Since 1986, when the Immigration Reform and Control Act set penalties for employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants, most such workers have been forced to buy fake ID's to get a job. Currently available for about $150 on street corners in just about any immigrant neighborhood in California, a typical fake ID package includes a green card and a Social Security card. It provides cover for employers, who, if asked, can plausibly assert that they believe all their workers are legal. It also means that workers must be paid by the book - with payroll tax deductions.” Far from curbing illegal immigration, “IRCA, as the immigration act is known, did little to deter employers from hiring illegal immigrants or to discourage them from working. But for Social Security's finances, it was a great piece of legislation.” Using data from the Census Bureau's current population survey, Steven Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies, an advocacy group in Washington that favors more limits on immigration, estimated that 3.8 million households headed by illegal immigrants generated $6.4 billion in Social Security taxes in 2002.

No doubt most illegal immigrants would prefer to avoid Social Security altogether. As part of its efforts to properly assign the growing pile of unassigned wages, Social Security sends about 130,000 letters a year to employers with large numbers of mismatched pay statements. Though not an intended consequence of these so-called no-match letters, in many cases employers who get them dismiss the workers affected. Or the workers—fearing that immigration authorities might be on their trail—just leave.


SOMEPLACE ALONG THE LINE, I THINK YOU MISS THE POINT. OUR ORIGINAL IMMIGRANTS—IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WISH TO CALL THEM, BUILT THE COUNTRY WITH WORK AND RELIGIOUS ETHICS. I AM REMINDED THAT BETTY’S FATHER WAS AN ORIGINAL CITIZEN BORN IN THE U.S., SERVED IN THE MILITARY, FOUGHT IN THE SPANISH AMERICAN WAR AND WAS INTERNED BY THE JAPANESE AFTER THE BATAAN DEATH MARCH WHICH HE SURVIVED. BETTY AND FAMILY FOUGHT IN THE WAR AGAINST THE JAPANESE WITH MANY MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY KILLED OR TORTURED TO DEATH. COMPARE THAT WIITH THE MEXICAN AND OTHER FOREIGN GANGS ROAMING THE STREETS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THEY ARE WREAKING HAVOC IN OUR CITIES. BETTY’S FAMILY WERE U.S. CITIZENS LIVING IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY, BUILDING FROM HIGH INCOME BUSINESS THERE AND DID NOT SHIRK FROM THEIR DUTIES OR PATRIOTISM. IN FACT THE FATHER TURNED OVER ALL OF HIS ASSETS AND BUSSES TO U.S. TROOPS TO HELP DEFEND THE PHILIPPINES. WE NEED TO SET HIGH STANDARDS FOR IMMIGRATION AND ENSURE THAT WE DO NOT INCLUDE SUCH AS THE SALVADORAN M-13 WHO FORM GANGS OF THUGS TO THREATEN AND INTIMIDATE THEIR OWN COUNTRYMEN WHO HAVE SETTLED LEGALLY.


Here, you bring up another good point. At the risk of appearing to have a bias against Italians, I can only conjure the intrigues of the Sicilian Mafia that remains, in this country, a powerful force in organized crime. Not sure if immigration is the issue here as much as it is law enforcement (and of course, education). Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like the gangs either and would not enjoy falling victim to their frolic.

As far as religious ethics are concerned, I think we need more of them. However, I would apply my own Christian (Catholic) upbringing to promoting policies that help the underprivileged, rather than simply strengthen the global financial elite. Ethics in business is a good thing to promote and I encourage you to do so.


WE HAVE MANY FRIENDS WHO ARE OFFICIAL IMMIGRANTS, INCLUDING MUSLIMS, THAT DO STUDY AND WORK HARD, THEIR CHILDREN ARE BEING EDUCATED IN OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS AND WE SUPPORT THAT. COMPARE THAT TO THE U.S. POLICY THAT ALLOWS OUTSIDERS/IMMIGRANTS WHO RECEIVE A TEMPORARY PASS AND THEN DISAPPEAR. YOUR MOTHER CARRIED A GREEN CARD AND MAINTAINED A GOOD CITIZENSHIP RELATIONSHIP FOR TWENTY YEARS. SHE DID NOT RECEIVE OR REQUEST SPECIAL TREATMENT. I CERTAINLY CANNOT COMPARE HER WITH THOSE WHO ILLEGALLY OR EVEN LEGALLY ENTER THE COUNTRY AND MAKE NO REAL EFFORT TO LEARN THE LANGUAGE OR PROVIDE FOR THEIR OWN AND DIRECT FAMILY WELFARE OR SUPPORT. HOW MANY TERRORISTS HAVE COME IN UNDER OUR CURRENT POLICIES?


The key issue here is security, I think. I favor strong compliance with existing immigration laws and a loosening of the immigration quota system that I think has artificially skewed the immigration picture and created bottlenecks where there should be open funnels. The main reason there are so many immigrants contributing to Social Security but who cannot collect it is that there are not enough opportunities to work in the U.S. legally.


WHAT IS MR. DEAN’S AND YOUR POLICY? DO WE LET EVERYBODY IN AND THEN WORRY ABOUT THEM LATER? THAT POLICY SPAWNED 9/11. NOW THE BRITTISH ARE LEARNING THE LESSON. INADEQUATE CONTROL OF IMMIGRATION ALLOWS THOSE WHO WISH TO CAUSE DISTRUPTION IN OUR COUNTRY TO HAVE A FREE REIN. OBVIOUSLY IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN BUT AT LEAST WE CAN LEARN TO MINIMIZE AND CONTROL TO SOME EXTENT THE DAMAGE. I DO NOT RECALL SERVING IN COMBAT SITUATIONS IN TWO WARS TO HELP OUT THOSE WHO ONLY EXPECT TO BE SUBSIDIZED OR WHO PARTICIPATE IN TERRORISM AND SUBVERSION.


While I disagree with your correlation to the British situation (except on an entirely different level having to do with British complicity in promoting our illegal war in Iraq), I agree with those who say that it is time to stop denying the reality that immigrant workers are vital to our economy, and to change our immigration laws to provide more opportunity for these workers to work legally. This position is consistent with views I have heard expressed by Gov. Dean.


YOU HAVE YOUR OWN OPINIONS AND HAVE EXPRESSED THEM. I HAPPEN TO HAVE APPARENTLY OPPOSITE PHILOSOPHIES TO SOME DEGREE. WE ALL HAVE RIGHTS TO OUR OWN OPINIONS. I SUPPORT EDUCATION FOR ALL WHO CAN CUT IT AND HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO ANY TAXES ALONG THAT LINE. EDUCATION AND TRAINING IS THE KEY TO PROGRESS. I AM NORMALLY AGAINST WELFARE UNLESS CONTROLLED AND ACTUALLY DETERMINED TO BE ESSENTIAL.

—DEAR OLD DAD


Dad, thanks again for your willingness to engage in this discussion and to share it with others through the Internet. I look forward to continuing this discussion.


P.S. THE ENCLOSED STRIPS FROM LOCAL PAPERS AND OTHERS ILLUSTRATE OUR CONCERN ABOUT IMMIGRATION POLICIES:

• WWW.STAR-TELEGRAM.COM [NATIONAL] “Border Security: Some migrants given license to disappear” (ca. July 8, 2005)

• WWW.STAR-TELEGRAM.COM [NATIONAL] “Immigration: Births to foreign mothers rising” (July 8, 2005)

• TRIBUNE MEDIA SERVICES, ca. July 4, 2005; “TB or Not TB” by Cal Thomas (www.calthomas.com)

Thanks, Dad, here are some links to the articles that I referenced above:

• National Immigration Forum Reports: Facts on Immigration, Bolstering Social Security (http://www.immigrationforum.org/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=724)

• New York Times (www.nytimes.com), April 5, 2005; “Illegal Immigrants Are Bolstering Social Security With Billions” [Front Page], by Eduardo Porter

• Immigration: Economic Progress; Urban Institute (www.urban.org); KEY FINDINGS: (Full text at: http://www.urban.org/Template.cfm?Section=ByTopic&NavMenuID=62&template=/TaggedContent/ViewPublication.cfm&PublicationID=8628)

• New Jobs in Recession and Recovery: Who Are Getting Them and Who Are Not? (Testimony), by Harry Holzer, Published: May 04, 2005 [HTML version]

• Other Immigration Characteristics and Trends at: (http://www.urban.org/Template.cfm?Section=ByTopic&NavMenuID=62&TopicID=193&TopicName=Characteristics%20and%20Trends)

• “Evaluation of California's Immigrant Education Offers Vital Lessons for National Policy”; The Urban Institute (www.urban.org); September 21, 2004; [HTML version]

Posted by Ralph Miller on August 1, 2005 at 08:36 PM | Permalink | Comments (28) | TrackBack